Take Juggalo's off Arizona Gang task force list

[AxereapinNINJA]

Hey my name is Brad and ive been continusioly discriminated and treated as a gang member just because i like Icp or psychopathic records in general.. since when, should it be a crime to wear the clothing, I myself have been a Juggalo for years and not one have i commited a crime i think taking juggalos of the task force list should be highly conciderated and i hope for everyone to help me and all of us out because most of us never did anything to not be able to waer a specific article of clothing. Its just the music i dont see how us good juggalo's should be discriminated by the police.

[Dr.Bob]

I don't know what a guggalo is, but asume it a gang of some sort. From the explaintion you give all I can tell you is if you want to act and dress like a gang member you will be concidered a gang member.
Please tell me what a guggalo is.

[AxereapinNINJA]

A juggalo or juggalo's is a fat group of people that listen to psychopathic records such as, Insane clown posse and stuff like that and we like to think of eachother as familuy because most dont uderstand and arent mature unough too latley people havent been able to see it our way. So in a few different states we are on the gang task force list and are concidered street gang members from wearig the clothing and to me thats discriminating and profiling, just because i have a shirt and like the band dosent mean im a gang member. From prior problems juggalos have been having there are plenty of juggalos that save lives everday ive seen juggalo Law enforcement and fire fighters were ever there are ppl there are also juggalo's and most of them happen to be great ppl that make a diference in the world everyday and are only being recoginized in arizona only as "gang members".

[BIGBROTHER007]

A juggalo or juggalo's is a fat group of people that listen to psychopathic records such as, Insane clown posse and stuff like that and we like to think of eachother as familuy because most dont uderstand and arent mature unough too latley people havent been able to see it our way. So in a few different states we are on the gang task force list and are concidered street gang members from wearig the clothing and to me thats discriminating and profiling, just because i have a shirt and like the band dosent mean im a gang member. From prior problems juggalos have been having there are plenty of juggalos that save lives everday ive seen juggalo Law enforcement and fire fighters were ever there are ppl there are also juggalo's and most of them happen to be great ppl that make a diference in the world everyday and are only being recoginized in arizona only as "gang members".

FILE A NICE BIG FAT LAWSUIT FOR VIOLATING YOU CIVIL RIGHTS.

[Dr.Bob]

A juggalo or juggalo's is a fat group of people that listen to psychopathic records such as, Insane clown posse and stuff like that and we like to think of eachother as familuy because most dont uderstand and arent mature unough too latley people havent been able to see it our way. So in a few different states we are on the gang task force list and are concidered street gang members from wearig the clothing and to me thats discriminating and profiling, just because i have a shirt and like the band dosent mean im a gang member. From prior problems juggalos have been having there are plenty of juggalos that save lives everday ive seen juggalo Law enforcement and fire fighters were ever there are ppl there are also juggalo's and most of them happen to be great ppl that make a diference in the world everyday and are only being recoginized in arizona only as "gang members".

I don't think you would get anywere with a discrimination law suit.
However if you can prove profiling i believe you would have a case. If your looking to get money that's the way I would go.
If you want to shed light on your cause contact the media, they'll jump at the chance to expose to police profiling tactics.
Would like to here more about the juggalo's. You can pm me if you like.

[AxereapinNINJA]

Im just sick of getting pulled over by the cops an them question me i get pulled over by the cops for wearing the clothing once a week and it just makes me mad that they dont pull anyone else over at all

[Dr.Bob]

Im just sick of getting pulled over by the cops an them question me i get pulled over by the cops for wearing the clothing once a week and it just makes me mad that they dont pull anyone else over at all

Trust me on this, your not the only one their pulling over.

[jordie_ catastroph]

ok,im a juggalette.I want to go into the military after high school,I also,planned on getting a hatchet man tattoo and the words "only god can judge me". BUT,I then remembered that "gang related" tattoos are not allowed.This upsets me because...
1:ICP is religious,as well as the messages they send through their music.and 2:the definition of a gang is "a group of persons associated for some criminal or other antisocial purpose"and
3:we are fans,bottom line.

next thing you know,the Deadheads will be considered a gang,and Maggots and the Kiss Army.It's getting ridiculous.We dont gather FOR THE PURPOSE of robbing a Circle K,or stealing a car,or drug dealing.If anything we're gathering FOR a social purpose.We gather,to meet people who listen to the same music and have the same outlook on life,or the same morals,or hobbies.simply because the music we happen to have in common is violent means that we're a gang?just because theres bad apples means we're ALL part of a gang?

not only that but the media highlights all the criminals who were later discovered to be juggalos,like the only reason they commited a crime was because of ICP.I dare anyone to walk into a prison,and do a survey on how many killers,rapists,drug drug dealers etc. listen to Metallica,or Eminem,Iron maiden or even U2.Im sure you'll find alot of criminals out there like these artist but you dont see fans of THESE artists plastered over the news and treated like the scum of society,you dont see parents burning these CD's or Teachers telling you to change THOSE shirts.

which is why Juggalos should be removed from the gang list in Arizona and every other state.Any intelligent person would see my argument valid but feel free to dispute,because argument isn't about "winning" but learning.

[Dr.Bob]

you make a good point and I agree with you. I too have had my fair share of run ins with the law just because of the way I look, for you see my friend I have been a biker for over 40 years, and know first hand what your talking about. If you do join the military , I wish you all the best, and thank you for your service in advance. Your young don't let the bull get to you my friend, it's just not worth it. I have never seen a Juggalo nor heard of till I heard of them from you. If I evre come across any I will stop and offer a hand shake and conversation.

[Jessica Minor]

being a juggalo or a juggalette really has nothing to do with the way u dress. I'm a lette have have been down for 7 years now. and i don't dress in hatchet clothing but i do have the tattoo of a hatchet on my hip. I haven't been discriminated on for it yet. but i do have friends who got arrested for something completely different then got an extra 3 years on what he had b4 all because he had a tattoo of a hatchet. being a juggalo or lette isn't a gang related activity. no matter what i will stand up for the juggalo's but i know their are a few that claim to b juggalo's and lette's and ruin it for the rest of us by doing stupid .

[Dr.Bob]

Please tell me more.

[RICHARD_NOLIMIT]

The following is not written to offend anyone. I apologize in advance if it does.


Juggalo's are a gang and in some case's are a threat and are criminals. Now I listen to ICP and all that but I ain't gang affiliated so no I don't run around acting stupid and doing stupid stuff. It is just music. Once you go beyond it being just music and start being down and kickin it, Then you are considered a gang. It's not a family, a family is people close to you such as parents and such. It's a gang anyway you look at it and it should be regulated in all ways. Now back in the day when they first came along yea it was cool because it was considered support for the artist but people have taken it to a whole new level and is now out of control with the way people are acting and taken things. I am not trying to bash anyone inpeticular but it needs to be dialed back a notch back to where is was fun and not criminal. I know someone is going to call me names and what ever else and that is fine with me. Juggalo's went from being real to emo/crip wannabe's with no transition in the middle. As far as I am concerned yes they should be looked at as a gang now and should be looked at by law enforcement to hold the piece, someone has to. And in closing I am listening to "I could" by ICP as I write this.

Richard

[Rsin]

Anyone can go buy all the joker card albums from insane clown posse, take them home to read the liner notes and message behind the face that is portrayed on each album. It has always said that there would be 6 faces to appear before the end consumed us all. Each face is a reflection of our own evil image as seen in the mirror staring back at us. Its a moral story telling you to change your evil ways so that you go to heaven and not hell. This was ICP's intended message from day 1. Are juggalos a gang? NO!!. Because a juggalo first of all is a fan who follows the band and the beliefs of the dark carnival faith (religion) which is actually just another form of christian religion that is worded different and hidden behind wicked music to attract people absent from god. (icp even states they arent sorry that they tricked us. because most thought it was an evil thing which turned out to be god in the end. They used a negative, to gain a positive reaction...juggalo family) People who otherwise wouldnt have given god the time of day, let alone ever consider another person family just because of some music. Gang members who call themselves juggalos are just perpetrators. Because icp, psychopathic and the dark carnival stands against violent acts. So there for "TRUE JUGGALO'S" cannot be gang related no matter what people say. Whatever happened to being innocent till proven guilty? Just because police label us gang members dont make us actual gang members. There are bad apples in all walks of life, including corrupt cops, lawyers, priests and some very well respected people in our communities. I myself am a juggalo, 36 years old with 3 kids and happily married. Well respected in my community even though I may look like the odd ball to people. Nobody has to worry about me or any juggalos in our community because we dont harass or bother people. Yet with 3 kids of my own, as a parent I have to be cautious and protect my kids from pedophiles at church, in law enforcement etc just as much as I do with any normal citizen.

To also add @RICHARD_NOLIMIT
Im not gonna call you anything. but I will say that your logic is way out of line and furthest from the truth. You've apparently judge a whole culture by what you may have seen or heard from a few bad apple cases in different states that involve so-called juggalo's. Obviously you, the police and any other critic out there needs their head examined and do your research better next time. Im a juggalo, Are you gonna sit there and judge me by calling me a gang member just because I am a juggalo? A father of 3 kids, happily married, well respected along with every other juggalo in my community. I dont drink, I dont do drugs, I dont run the streets. but I am a juggalo and by your definition that makes me a gang member? whatever dude. May god judge you the way you do others. Guess we'll see you in the last joker card. and I dont mean shangri-la either. lol

[WiggerMann]

ok,im a juggalette.I want to go into the military after high school,I also,planned on getting a hatchet man tattoo and the words "only god can judge me". BUT,I then remembered that "gang related" tattoos are not allowed.This upsets me because...
1:ICP is religious,as well as the messages they send through their music.and 2:the definition of a gang is "a group of persons associated for some criminal or other antisocial purpose"and
3:we are fans,bottom line.

ICP is as "religious" as adult videos are biology class reference books. Those ignorant enough to believe the juggalo "religion" concern me the most. Ask your priest what he thinks about icp, let alone kids being exposed to this material. If it's so religious, I'm sure he won't have any problem with it.

I'm not surprised you want to join the military. I'm sure the association with violence works for you.

Juggalos are comprised by outcasts and "scrubs". How you can possibly think that this group of undesirables is able to create any better "family" than the general population of "normal" society is beyond me. And don't then tell me those aren't real Juggalos, because last I checked there wasn't any test or rules what defines a "real" juggalo. All those folks walked and talked the part.

And please refer me to ANY news story about a violent criminal act puported by DeadHeads or the Kiss Army; I can't locate anything beyond Juggalos raping goats.

[WiggerMann]

... the dark carnival faith (religion) which is actually just another form of christian religion that is worded different and hidden behind wicked music to attract people absent from god. (icp even states they arent sorry that they tricked us. because most thought it was an evil thing which turned out to be god in the end.

Pretty daring move hiding that message, considering how uneducated most Juggalos are.

But following that logic, how can you be sure there isn't another hidden message about forming a gang for god that just hasn't been revealed yet?

Also, I'm surprised at the behavior of those at the gatherings... I didn't realize throwing feces was so christian.